Talent changes from Classic
Forever build 1.60.1.70707 against Classic Era build 1.15.9.70576. Across the nine classes, 113 talents are new, 155 changed their values, ranks or name, 140 kept their effect but moved or changed what they require, and 80 Classic talents left the trees.
By class
Warrior
9 new, 19 changed in values, 15 only moved, 9 removed, out of 52 talents.
Biggest value moves, at the last rank:
- Improved DisarmProtection: 3 to 20 (+566.7%)
- Shield SpecializationProtection: 1 to 5 (+400%)
- AnticipationProtection: 10 to 20 (+100%)
Paladin
18 new, 13 changed in values, 14 only moved, 12 removed, out of 50 talents.
Biggest value moves, at the last rank:
- Spiritual FocusHoly: 28% to 70% (+150%)
- AnticipationProtection: 10 to 20 (+100%)
- Pursuit of JusticeRetribution: 8% to 15% (+87.5%)
Hunter
14 new, 13 changed in values, 16 only moved, 9 removed, out of 51 talents.
Biggest value moves, at the last rank:
- Improved Aspect of the MonkeyBeast Mastery: 3% to 6% (+100%)
- Savage StrikesSurvival: 20% to 4% (-80%)
- Improved Wing ClipSurvival: 12% to 20% (+66.7%)
Rogue
9 new, 18 changed in values, 16 only moved, 7 removed, out of 53 talents.
Biggest value moves, at the last rank:
- SetupSubtlety: 45% to 100% (+122.2%)
- DeflectionCombat: 3% to 6% (+100%)
- PremeditationSubtlety: 10 to 20 (+100%)
Priest
14 new, 16 changed in values, 17 only moved, 9 removed, out of 52 talents.
Biggest value moves, at the last rank:
- MeditationDiscipline: 15% to 50% (+233.3%)
- Wand SpecializationDiscipline: 10% to 25% (+150%)
- Improved Mana BurnDiscipline: 0.5 to 1 (+100%)
Shaman
12 new, 17 changed in values, 15 only moved, 8 removed, out of 50 talents.
Biggest value moves, at the last rank:
- AnticipationEnhancement: 3% to 6% (+100%)
- Improved Ghost WolfEnhancement: 2 to 3 (+50%)
- Mana Tide TotemRestoration: 20 to 30 (+50%)
Mage
6 new, 26 changed in values, 11 only moved, 2 removed, out of 53 talents.
Biggest value moves, at the last rank:
- Arcane MeditationArcane: 15% to 50% (+233.3%)
- Improved Fire BlastFire: 1 to 2 (+100%)
- ImpactFire: 6% to 10% (+66.7%)
Warlock
17 new, 14 changed in values, 19 only moved, 15 removed, out of 52 talents.
Biggest value moves, at the last rank:
- CataclysmDestruction: 3% to 10% (+233.3%)
- Curse of ExhaustionAffliction: 10% to 30% (+200%)
- Improved Bane of AgonyAffliction: 4% to 10% (+150%)
Druid
14 new, 19 changed in values, 17 only moved, 9 removed, out of 52 talents.
Biggest value moves, at the last rank:
- ReflectionRestoration: 15% to 50% (+233.3%)
- MoonglowBalance: 9% to 25% (+177.8%)
- Improved MoonfireBalance: 4% to 10% (+150%)
Every value change
71The last rank of each talent, the number Classic had and the number Forever has. Sort by any column; the class filter above applies here too.
| Classic | Forever | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Improved Disarm | Warrior | Protection | 3 | 20 | +566.7% |
| Shield Specialization | Warrior | Protection | 1 | 5 | +400% |
| Meditation | Priest | Discipline | 15% | 50% | +233.3% |
| Arcane Meditation | Mage | Arcane | 15% | 50% | +233.3% |
| Cataclysm | Warlock | Destruction | 3% | 10% | +233.3% |
| Reflection | Druid | Restoration | 15% | 50% | +233.3% |
| Curse of Exhaustion | Warlock | Affliction | 10% | 30% | +200% |
| Moonglow | Druid | Balance | 9% | 25% | +177.8% |
| Spiritual Focus | Paladin | Holy | 28% | 70% | +150% |
| Wand Specialization | Priest | Discipline | 10% | 25% | +150% |
| Improved Bane of Agony | Warlock | Affliction | 4% | 10% | +150% |
| Improved Moonfire | Druid | Balance | 4% | 10% | +150% |
| Subtlety | Druid | Restoration | 12% | 30% | +150% |
| Setup | Rogue | Subtlety | 45% | 100% | +122.2% |
| Anticipation | Warrior | Protection | 10 | 20 | +100% |
| Anticipation | Paladin | Protection | 10 | 20 | +100% |
| Improved Aspect of the Monkey | Hunter | Beast Mastery | 3% | 6% | +100% |
| Deflection | Rogue | Combat | 3% | 6% | +100% |
| Premeditation | Rogue | Subtlety | 10 | 20 | +100% |
| Improved Mana Burn | Priest | Discipline | 0.5 | 1 | +100% |
| Anticipation | Shaman | Enhancement | 3% | 6% | +100% |
| Improved Fire Blast | Mage | Fire | 1 | 2 | +100% |
| Pursuit of Justice | Paladin | Retribution | 8% | 15% | +87.5% |
| Savage Strikes | Hunter | Survival | 20% | 4% | -80% |
| Holy Shield | Paladin | Protection | 65 | 110 | +69.2% |
| Improved Seals | Paladin | Holy | 9% | 15% | +66.7% |
| One-Handed Weapon Specialization | Paladin | Protection | 6% | 10% | +66.7% |
| Eye for an Eye | Paladin | Retribution | 30% | 10% | -66.7% |
| Improved Wing Clip | Hunter | Survival | 12% | 20% | +66.7% |
| Mental Agility | Priest | Discipline | 6% | 10% | +66.7% |
| Spiritual Healing | Priest | Holy | 6% | 10% | +66.7% |
| Impact | Mage | Fire | 6% | 10% | +66.7% |
| Shatter | Mage | Frost | 30% | 50% | +66.7% |
| Conflagrate | Warlock | Destruction | 306 | 106 | -65.4% |
| Conflagrate | Warlock | Destruction | 240 | 84 | -65% |
| Shadow Reach | Priest | Shadow Magic | 13% | 20% | +53.8% |
| Unbridled Wrath | Warrior | Fury | 40% | 60% | +50% |
| Spirit Bond | Hunter | Beast Mastery | 2% | 1% | -50% |
| Spirit Bond | Hunter | Beast Mastery | 10 | 5 | -50% |
| Dual Wield Specialization | Rogue | Combat | 50% | 25% | -50% |
| Spirit of Redemption | Priest | Holy | 10 | 15 | +50% |
| Improved Ghost Wolf | Shaman | Enhancement | 2 | 3 | +50% |
| Mana Tide Totem | Shaman | Restoration | 20 | 30 | +50% |
| Arcane Subtlety | Mage | Arcane | 10 | 15 | +50% |
| Unholy Power | Warlock | Demonology | 20% | 10% | -50% |
| Heart of the Wild | Druid | Feral Combat | 20% | 10% | -50% |
| Savage Fury | Druid | Feral Combat | 20% | 10% | -50% |
| Sharpened Claws | Druid | Feral Combat | 4% | 6% | +50% |
| Mana Tide Totem | Shaman | Restoration | 170 | 88 | -48.2% |
| Benediction | Paladin | Retribution | 15% | 10% | -33.3% |
| Ferocity | Hunter | Beast Mastery | 15% | 10% | -33.3% |
| Barrage | Hunter | Marksmanship | 15% | 10% | -33.3% |
| Lightning Reflexes | Hunter | Survival | 15% | 10% | -33.3% |
| Lethality | Rogue | Assassination | 30% | 20% | -33.3% |
| Improved Eviscerate | Rogue | Combat | 15% | 20% | +33.3% |
| Initiative | Rogue | Subtlety | 75% | 100% | +33.3% |
| Improved Power Word: Shield | Priest | Discipline | 15% | 20% | +33.3% |
| Pyroblast | Mage | Fire | 187 | 125 | -33.2% |
| Pyroblast | Mage | Fire | 141 | 95 | -32.6% |
| Insect Swarm | Druid | Balance | 66 | 48 | -27.3% |
| Siphon Life | Warlock | Affliction | 15 | 11 | -26.7% |
| Unleashed Fury | Hunter | Beast Mastery | 20% | 15% | -25% |
| Opportunity | Rogue | Subtlety | 8% | 10% | +25% |
| Arcane Subtlety | Mage | Arcane | 40% | 30% | -25% |
| Pyroblast | Mage | Fire | 56 | 44 | -21.4% |
| Flurry | Warrior | Fury | 30% | 25% | -16.7% |
| Elemental Alacrity | Shaman | Elemental Combat | 0.6 | 0.50 | -16.7% |
| Flurry | Shaman | Enhancement | 30% | 25% | -16.7% |
| Mind Flay | Priest | Shadow Magic | 75 | 63 | -16% |
| Blast Wave | Mage | Fire | 186 | 178 | -4.3% |
| Blast Wave | Mage | Fire | 154 | 148 | -3.9% |