WoW Forever class guide
Rogue Guide
Guide coming soon Data from game build 1.60.1.70707
Overview
What the class does in Forever and which spec to start with. This part is being written; until then the data around it is all we show.
Talents per spec
The earliest level each tier opens with every point in that tree; points start at level 10. When, not what to take.
AssassinationSpec hub
- 100 pts
- 155 pts
- 2010 pts
- 2515 pts
- 3020 pts
- 3525 pts
- 4030 pts
Changed
Lethality,
Vigor,
Improved Kidney Shot
CombatSpec hub
- 100 pts
- 155 pts
- 2010 pts
- 2515 pts
- 3020 pts
- 3525 pts
- 4030 pts
New
Puncturing Wounds,
Flawless Execution
Changed
Improved Eviscerate,
Deflection,
Precision,
Endurance,
Dual Wield Specialization,
Blade Flurry,
Hack and Slash
SubtletySpec hub
- 100 pts
- 155 pts
- 2010 pts
- 2515 pts
- 3020 pts
- 3525 pts
- 4030 pts
New
Dirty Tricks,
Improved Distract,
Quietus,
Cutthroat,
Thousand Cuts
Changed
Master of Deception,
Opportunity,
Setup,
Elusiveness,
Initiative,
Heightened Senses,
Premeditation,
Serrated Blades
Talent splits saved here
No Rogue build has been counted 5 times yet.
Leveling
Talents, spells and gear from 1 to 60. This part is being written; until then the data around it is all we show.
When each tier opens
| Points in the tree | Level |
|---|---|
| 0 | 10 |
| 5 | 15 |
| 10 | 20 |
| 15 | 25 |
| 20 | 30 |
| 25 | 35 |
| 30 | 40 |
One point a level from 10. Plan your order in the calculator's leveling order; train spells with the trainer planner.
New in Forever, by level 7
- 1
Hack and Slash · Combat - 30Coup de Grace · Assassination
- 30
Mutilate talent · Assassination - 40
Mutilate · Assassination - 40
Venom talent · Assassination - 50
Mutilate · Assassination - 60
Mutilate · Assassination
33 more abilities changed from Classic: every change.
Gear by level
The weapon the best in slot ranking puts first at each level, and the set's average item level, with the default sources (drops, quests, crafted, world drops). Every slot is on each spec's best in slot page.
AssassinationBest in slot
- 20
Serrated Raptor ClawMain Hand · set item level 28 - 30
Blackwater ScimitarMain Hand · set item level 36 - 40
BeastsmasherMain Hand · set item level 49 - 50
Ravenholdt SlicerMain Hand · set item level 60 - 60
Dagger of Veiled ShadowsMain Hand · set item level 63
CombatBest in slot
- 20
Serrated Raptor ClawMain Hand · set item level 28 - 30
Blackwater ScimitarMain Hand · set item level 36 - 40
BeastsmasherMain Hand · set item level 49 - 50
Ravenholdt SlicerMain Hand · set item level 60 - 60
Dagger of Veiled ShadowsMain Hand · set item level 63
SubtletyBest in slot
- 20
Serrated Raptor ClawMain Hand · set item level 28 - 30
Blackwater ScimitarMain Hand · set item level 37 - 40
BeastsmasherMain Hand · set item level 49 - 50
Ravenholdt SlicerMain Hand · set item level 60 - 60
Dagger of Veiled ShadowsMain Hand · set item level 62
Racials that fit a Rogue
A racial fits when the game gives a version only to Rogues, or when its text names a power Rogues use. A fact from the data, not a ranking. Every Rogue racial.
Dungeons
Roles, rotations and gear for five-player dungeons. This part is being written; until then the data around it is all we show.
Dungeons by level 23
- 13Hall of Thanes
- 13Ragefire ChasmOrgrimmar
- 15Ruins of Lordaeron
- 16DeadminesWestfall
- 17Wailing CavernsThe Barrens
- 18Shadowfang KeepSilverpine Forest
- 22Blackfathom Deeps
- 23Stormwind Stockade
- 24Razorfen Kraul
- 25GnomereganDun Morogh
- 26Excavation site
- 28City of Dalaran
- 30Scarlet Monastery
- 34Razorfen Downs
- 35UldamanBadlands
- 42MaraudonDesolace
- 42Zul'Farrak
- 45Sunken TempleSwamp of Sorrows
- 48Blackrock DepthsSearing Gorge
- 53Blackrock SpireBurning Steppes
- 54Dire MaulFeralas
- 55StratholmeEastern Plaguelands
- 57ScholomanceWestern Plaguelands
The game's recommended levels. 5 more have no level in the data yet. Type your level in the dungeon finder.
Raid
Raid roles, cooldowns and the gear that matters at 60. This part is being written; until then the data around it is all we show.
- 60Blackwing Lair40 players
- 60Molten Core40 players
- 60Onyxia's Lair40 players
- 60Zul'Gurub20 players
5 more raids have no level in the data yet. Every raid; group planning in the raid roster.
PvP
Battlegrounds, world PvP and honor rank gear. This part is being written; until then the data around it is all we show.
Rank titles and challenges: honor ranks.
Patch changes
WoW Forever beta build of 16 October 2026 Blizzard's words, sorted.
- FixRogue Poisons will no longer incorrectly activate against targets that are attacking them.
- Changed
Sap no longer has a chance to activate weapon procs. - FixFixed an issue where Rogues could swap specializations to keep their energy full.
- Fix
Cold Blood is now correctly consumed when
Mutilate lands a critical strike.
FAQ
Rogue
- How many talent points does a Rogue get?
- 51 by level 60. The first point comes at level 10, then one per level.
- How many Rogue talents are there?
- 53, in three trees: Assassination, Combat and Subtlety.
- Which Rogue talents are new in Forever?
- 9:
Mutilate,
Venom,
Puncturing Wounds,
Flawless Execution,
Dirty Tricks,
Improved Distract,
Quietus,
Cutthroat and
Thousand Cuts. - Which Classic Rogue talents are gone?
- 7: Improved Backstab, Dagger Specialization, Mace Specialization, Fist Weapon Specialization, Sleight of Hand, Improved Sap and Deadliness.
- What are the deepest Rogue talents?
- Assassination:
Venom (30 points). Combat:
Adrenaline Rush (30 points). Subtlety:
Thousand Cuts (30 points). - Which races can be a Rogue?
- Human, Dwarf, Night Elf, Gnome, High Order Skyborne, Orc, Undead, Troll and Windshaper Skyborne.
- How many spells does a Rogue trainer teach?
- 30 spells, the last rank at level 60.
Assassination
- How many talents does Assassination Rogue have in WoW Forever?
- 17: 2 new in Forever, 3 changed in values from Classic, 12 as in Classic or only moved.
- What is the deepest Assassination talent?
Venom, after 30 points in Assassination.- At what level can you reach the bottom of the Assassination tree?
- Level 40, if every point from the first goes into Assassination.
- What did the latest patch notes change for Assassination?
- 1 line across 1 post: 0 buffs, 0 nerfs.
Combat
- How many talents does Combat Rogue have in WoW Forever?
- 17: 2 new in Forever, 7 changed in values from Classic, 8 as in Classic or only moved.
- What is the deepest Combat talent?
Adrenaline Rush, after 30 points in Combat.- At what level can you reach the bottom of the Combat tree?
- Level 40, if every point from the first goes into Combat.
- Which Combat talents are new in Forever?
Puncturing Wounds and
Flawless Execution.- Which Combat spells are new in Forever?
- None in this build.
- What did the latest patch notes change for Combat?
- No line in our patch notes names this spec.
Subtlety
- How many talents does Subtlety Rogue have in WoW Forever?
- 19: 5 new in Forever, 8 changed in values from Classic, 6 as in Classic or only moved.
- What is the deepest Subtlety talent?
Thousand Cuts, after 30 points in Subtlety.- At what level can you reach the bottom of the Subtlety tree?
- Level 40, if every point from the first goes into Subtlety.
- Which Subtlety talents are new in Forever?
Dirty Tricks,
Improved Distract,
Quietus,
Cutthroat and
Thousand Cuts.- Which Subtlety spells are new in Forever?
- None in this build.
- What did the latest patch notes change for Subtlety?
- 1 line across 1 post: 0 buffs, 0 nerfs.
Serrated Raptor Claw
Binds when picked up
One-HandDagger
24 - 45 DamageSpeed 1.60
(21.6 damage per second)
+5 Agility
Requires Level 1
Equip: +10 Attack power
Item Level 33
Comes from a quest reward
Blackwater Scimitar
Binds when picked up
One-HandOne-Handed Sword
35 - 66 DamageSpeed 1.90
(26.6 damage per second)
+5 Strength
+5 Agility
Item Level 45
Comes from a quest reward
Beastsmasher
Binds when picked up
Main HandOne-Handed Mace
48 - 90 DamageSpeed 2.10
(32.9 damage per second)
Equip: +16 Attack power
Item Level 55
Comes from a quest reward
Ravenholdt Slicer
Binds when picked up
One-HandOne-Handed Sword
83 - 156 DamageSpeed 2.80
(42.7 damage per second)
+6 Stamina
Equip: +26 Attack power
Item Level 65
Comes from a quest reward
Dagger of Veiled Shadows
Binds when picked up
One-HandDagger
65 - 121 DamageSpeed 1.80
(51.7 damage per second)
+15 Agility
+7 Strength
Requires Level 60
Equip: +10 Hit rating
Item Level 70
Comes from a quest reward